I'm hooked on Brugs too!!

Actually Paula, Yourgrace, started me with my first brug cutting. A Dr. Zuess which has bloomed for me 2 years now. I have 3 cuttings that DeeDee sent me growing inside. In the Spring when all frost is gone, I'll transplant them outside. I'm hoping I won't lose anymore before then. Deedee sent me a few cuttings and I have one survivor of each color, white, pink and yellow.

DeeDee, it's all your fault that there are a bunch of brug crazed members on this site. Pat yourself on the back. You spread that brug fever all over the place!

So let me see if I got this straight: a brug grown from a seed off of a named brug is technically a hybrid of that brug, but a cutting off a named brug can actually be called a name brug?

I love growing them....I can't wait to see those blooms and smell that smell! The flowers are just gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!

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Susan this is what the seeds would read,, "Nina Lane X unknown" unless you know who the other Brug parent was,,, the mother (seed pod) name goes first,,woooohoooooo i am so glad you are getting sprouts so soon.,, so they are not now called a Nina Lane,,but a hybrid of Nina Lane,, once they get big enough to bloom you might see just white blooms on most of them,, sometimes only a very few within the same seed pod will show a different color on the first blooms,, and it can take a few bloom cycles before they finally decide on their true colors, same holds for the white ones they might change color after the first few blooms, i have just sent off one of my brugs to all over the USA to be tested.. this process will take 2-5 years to see if it's good enough to get a name.. and in order for you to really name it and be recognized by the Brugmansia Society the same process will have to be done.so technically. you will have an NOID Brug. and if you do want to call it by some name just  call it a Nina Lane hybrid that way people would know who the mother plant was.,,PLEASE everyone don't call a hybrid by a name without having it tested. it can take a few years of growing/testing to give it a name. so if you are not sure call it a NOID or hybrid of the plant you know is the parent. there are so many Brugs that look alike and if you are not 100% sure what it is don't make up a name call it a NOID also. just because it looks like a Dr. Seuss it might be another that looks like a Dr. Seuss. if you have a named one make sure you tag it very well.

I'm not for sure what she saw but i would almost guarantee it wasn't a Brug. not in the USA.  

i do have about 6 in ground here but cut them all the way back for winter. i also dig big holes to drop the 7gal pots into the ground when spring comes.. just makes it easier for me to pull up and house in the greenhouse for winter.

Dorothy Brugs can live a very long life if kept happy.. have heard of some over 20 years and still going strong. they are a fast grower also.. some of mine got up to 9'tall this past year, and loaded with blooms all at the same time,,, i walked into one of the greenhouses a few mins ago, i have some white ones in bloom now and wow! what a good smell it is.

Keep them Brugs growing!!

 

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Dorothy, that sounds like a real beauty! I don't think I'd mind a brug tree too much! I think the idea of a tree with such beautiful flowers would be just peachy!

Mary, DeeDee got me hooked on brugs too! First it was just pictures and then I couldn't stop drooling. Since then people have sent me brug cuttings for Christmas and in one case, for my birthday....I love my brugs, but what I love even more is knowing that they came from such special friends here at GH!

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I have my brugs in containers but have been passing a house with a huge brug inground and I have been wanted to stop by and ask about it.  I finally did this morning and found the owner was home. I made a new gardening friend today.  Mr. Trahan said it is 7 years old and his soil is heavily amended because he started out with "swamp soup clay".   He cuts it back every year to about 3 ft and sometimes more if any damage from frost.  I will go take a picture of this monster in the summer when you can't see the front of his house because of the tree.  I think I will keep mine in the pots because I don't want one this big.   

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I have a few in containers. Gess DeeDee, You really do some growing there. I just love them. Thanks to DeeDee getting me addicted. I plan on leaving mine in containers and placing them throughout my yard. I hope to get a greenhouse for them by next winter. I did lose one of my new cuttings from ebay. I have been sooooo sad. I wish there was a way to revive plants when dead. but no one has told me there is such a thang.  Mary

DeeDee, I'm thrilled that you weighed in on this thread! I needed your expertise here. Like I said, you say you are no expert, but you are my brugmansia guru!

I followed your instructions and soaked the Nina Lane seeds....Then I planted them in some tiny containers to start off. I always stat my seeds in something that allows me to water them from the bottom up. I think I started them two or three days ago. I have my first sprout! Woo Hoo!

So if seeds aren't necessarily true to the parent, then I couldn't rightly call these brugs Nina Lane....but I could call them brugs that are started from seeds from a Nina Lane brug.....so, if I understand correctly what you are saying, they are relatives of a Nina Lane brug in some way.

DeeDee do you suppose that what she saw in the wild was some relative of the night shade family?

Like you said, Datura is an annual, but the way those seed pods burst open -- especially some more than others and especially when they are fully dry, it's not hard for seeds to fall on the ground, in the pots or anywhere else, so if you have plants that return the next year, I'm willing to bet that that's what happened, don't you think?

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 hi again all.. i am so happy to see that y'all are wanting to learn how to take care of these Beautiful plants.. they are and can be high maintenance like Susan said. i for one have never heard of them growing wild here in the USA along road sides. they require too much water and fertilizer to be successful at this i think. could be wrong tho. would love to see them growing in the wild so if you have a picture of it please let me know. Brugs are considered a perennial plant. where as Datura for the most part are an annual or a very short lived perennial. so it's best and easiest to just start them from seeds every year. most who know me knows we have started a Brugmanisa nursery and i have about 700 of them growing in containers now. it's best to start them off in small pots so you can control the amount of water they need to develop a good root system and keep upping the container they are in until you reach the 5-7 gal size. then to trim off roots and re pot every year once they reach the large size containers. once i start a cutting i don't use any fertilizer for the first few weeks to ensure that the roots get strong enough to take up the nutrient they need.  start with a weak solution for a few weeks before you up it to full strength. i use Miracle-Gro for this... this is what i feed mine,,

babies--(NOT cutting) 1/2 strength MG to start with then up to full strength in about their 2nd month growing stage.

over 5 months old--MG+Bloom Booster  every 3-4 days,,every other feeding i like to use 1/2 strength Fish Emulsion,, and every 3rd week i use liq. Iron.

please keep in mine that this is during their growing cycles,(spring-fall), during the winter i don't let mine go dormant but i do slow down on the amount of fert. they get.

Susan the potting soil i make along with potting soils i buy have the Osmacote in it. but it doesn't break down fast enough for the Brugs. Brugs are heavy feeders and with having to use so much water on them the fertilizer washes out fast from the previous feeding.

 please note that Brug seeds do NOT come true to their parents.. so if you want a certain flower/plant you would need to take cuttings off it to reproduce as parent.

 here is a very good site to check into. there are area's for visitors to look around at. lots of info there.

 http://www.abads.net/abadssitemap.htm

i will be working on some Articles about Brugmansia soon.. wooohoooo i hope every one of you become an addict like me,, hehehehe

 

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Chellflower, I think Datura is supposed to be an annual. It may come back year after year, but that would be the result of seeds that drop. I had two kinds of Datura last year, and I wasn't crazy about it. The flowers are beautiful, to be sure, and Fleur de Lilac had a lovely fragrance but they only bloomed at night and the flowers only lasted a day. I too am in zone 8, but I think I'm 8b. I wouldn't put the brugs in the ground. We've had some pretty bad extremes in temperature and I don't think brugs would tolerate temperatures below the 50's and 60's at night. They are also supposed to be big drinkers and need a lot of fertilizer. DeeDee, my brug guru says she uses Osmacote and liquid iron. I have my brug cuttings indoors right now. I make sure that they get plenty of light by using full spectrum lights. I don't plan to take them out until our night time temperatures are consistently in the middle 50's at the lowest. Just make sure that you put them in a large enough pot. Experience taught me, and this was with cuttings once they are rooted, the roots grow big and fast and it won't take long for them to outgrow their container. If you start super big, you won't have worry about it for a good long time. Another reason I wouldn't put them in the ground is that we haven't had much moisture here all winter long. We've also had some pretty cold nights, and brugs aren't cold weather plants. If you keep them in pots (and I'm tempted to get those plant holder things that you can wheel around,) then you are free to bring them in when it's too cold outside, and you don't have to worry about whether whatever you intend to use to protect them will be adequate. Until I live way down south, say zone 9-10 or 10-11, which I don't envision happening anytime soon, I won't dare put them in the ground. Just my opinion, though!

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hi,

 

I have some Brug and Datura seedlings. After reading your posts, I am wondering if I should go ahead and plant them outdoors as planned, or find some 5 gallon buckets or huge pots.

I'm in zone 8 (Texas). We seldom get snow in Winter (mainly cold & wet), but our summers usually get little rainfall and fairly hot temps. I've never grown brugs before and only had Datura  the year before last from some seedlings that came up in an ivy my G'mother had given me -the seeds had accidentally gotten spilled in the hanging basket. We transplanted them outside and called them 'Mystery Plants' until they bloomed, then I spotted a picture in a catalog of our mystery ' Double Lavender Angel Trumpets!!  These did fine with very little care, unfortunately they didn't come back last year.

I'm guessing that Brugs & Datura will grow in the ground here as well as Hibiscus. Would they need to be covered in winter? If in containers, can they winter indoors?

 

 

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Cooky-Glenda, are you sure you're seeing brugs on the road? I am not sure they'd survive in the wild. DeeDee would be the one to answer that....They strike me as fairly high maintenance as flowers go. They need large pots, good soil, frequent fertilizer and lots of water.

Tatyana, plant them in a large pot that will ensure you've got plenty of room for their roots to grow. It doesn't take long for the roots to develop enough for them to run out of space. I've only had brugs since last fall and some since even more recently (around Christmas time,) and they've already outgrown the containers and forced me to repot them. Be sure you can bring them inside when the temps drop below about 50 or 60....

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Roman's 8: 28, 29

But I don't know where to get seeds or cuttings

I do sometimes see wild ones along the roads here

 

 i keep 99% of my brugs in containers here,, in big pots,, 7 gals big,,, every spring i take them out of their pots and trim off most of their roots, but i always leave the root ball itself intact,,, i use new potting soil to re-pot them with,,,brugs dont' like to be root bound,once you start to see the roots trying to come out of the container you have them in it's time to up the pot size,,,  trimming the roots don't hurt,,,i do take extra care in the summer heat when i have to water sometimes twice a day,,,putting in clay pots is not such a good ideal as it dries out too fast for the brug to take up the amount of water or fertilizer it needs to maintain a healthy plant..i do house mine in a temp. greenhouse during the winter here,,, the ones i do have in ground i cut back in late Nov.

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I forgot about my two baby seedlings.  They will stay in containers too.

I got one in a container that grow to about 8ft in one season.  It came in a 3" pot.  It got damaged in the hard freeze we had but it did not die.  I cut it back and it has lots of new growth.  I will bring it in if there is another freeze.  I got a cutting from a Valentines RR and it is one my windowsill and has good roots and lots of leaves already.  I am going to keep this one in a container also but only because of my clay soil.

I am also growing them in containers. The only thing I have discovered is that they can and do outgrow their containers -- to the point sometimes where the roots start peeking out of the soil. I think the key is to plan ahead and to plant them in a big enough pot. Another thing to consider when the weather gets warmer, pots dry out faster than plants in the ground. If you use clay pots, they dry out even faster. Don't forget to give them plenty of water and fertilizer. They also like iron. I can't wait to see blooms. I'm even starting some Nina Lane brugs by seed!

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