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To 1 gallon of 20% vinegar add 2 oz. orange oil and 1 teaspoon dish soap.Spray as usual.This will quickly KILL ANY living plant.

The 20% vinegar is not what you get at the grocery store. It's much stronger.Get it at a nursery or agriculture supply store.It will be labeled 20% vinegar.

tray

Hot Water

I also heard that really hot water is used to kill weeds. Anyone tried that?
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Thanks

Thanks for sharing this great information. I would have never thought of using vinegar either.

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Ah....just so happens I am

Ah....just so happens I am a chemist..

Aha!  I should have

Aha!  I should have known.  Good for you.  I heard from someone that you were from India.  I worked one day a week for another professor at the Graduate Institute and he had a post-doc working with him so she and I worked in the same lab on those days.  I have forgotten her name at this point, but she was a really sweet girl.  That was back in 1971, I believe.

I was studying to be a

I was studying to be a chemical engineer but got too interested in my wife to be and didn't finish my degree.  I did have enough to land a position with that rocket company and I stayed with them for a little over ten years before moving to Oregon.  I studied refrigeration while employed at the rocket plant and worked part-time at that for seven or eight years before I came to the conclusion I should stick with one or the other and I chose to get out of the laboratory work.  But the chemical background sure did help me understand the refrigeration business,

Yup I am from India...been

Yup I am from India...been 11 yrs since I moved here...going back for a visit soon....shd be good

Always add acid to water. 

Always add acid to water.  The water will absorb the heat generated by the reaction.  But with acetic acid its not so much of a problem as opposed to something stronger like hydrochloric or sulphuric acid.

Thank you, Smitha.  That's

Thank you, Smitha.  That's what I thought, but I was a little foggy about that.  Now the question is, how did you know that?  That says to me that you have some knowledge along those lines.
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Thanks alot....

Thanks alot for this recipe. We have a lot of briars, honeysuckle, and other bushes that we are trying to kill out. And it would cost us an arm & leg to purchase enough round up or other weed killer. I am going to town tomorrow and I will stop at our Co-op supply and see if they have some of the vinegar. Where do you purchase the orange oil from?

 

Melissa

 

 

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I will try

I will try this on the creeping charlie and dandelions. do you spray at the roots of each plant and will it come back ,or do out have to get down to the root

I have never heard of 20%

I have never heard of 20% vinegar what a great idea.

I will for sure try this.

TTFN

coco

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most!!

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most!!

You can get the vinegar at a

You can get the vinegar at a nursery or agriculture supply place. The orange oil is essential oil ( I should have said that ) you can get that at an herb store.If you can't find the vinegar try calling you county extension ofice or county co-op.I trying to grow organic and I love things like this. 

tray

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Okay  I want to try it,

Okay  I want to try it, tell me where you get the 20% vinegar, the regular vinegar at the store is only 5% acidic.  And where to buy orange oil never heard of it.  Inquring minds want to know.  Dale

Dale, Photo Team Leader & Good Will Ambassador

If you cannot find 20%

If you cannot find 20% vinegar otherwise, you could mix your own by buying glacial acetic acid at a photography store that sells the chemicals for film processing.  Glacial acetic acid is almost 100% and can be mixed 1 part acid to 4 parts water for a 20% solution.  Acetic acid is considered a weak acid, but don't let that keep you from being very careful handling it.  Weak only refers to the hydrogen ion concentration in solution.  There is another caution to observe.  It has been almost 40 years since I worked in the laboratory and I cannot remember now if you are supposed to add acid into the water or water into the acid.  It does make a difference especially with strong acids.  My reasoning says that it should be mixed acid into water.  Glacial acid should be considered only if no other source could be found for 20% vinegar though.  I handled it a lot back in my laboratory days, but that was over half a lifetime ago.
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Randy my friend, you never

Randy my friend, you never cease to amaze me.  You are a book of knowledge.  Also, half a lifetime is a lllllllllllooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnng time.   Dale, Photo Manager & Good Will Ambassador

Dale, Photo Team Leader & Good Will Ambassador

That's funny, Miss Dale.  I

That's funny, Miss Dale.  I worked at Aerojet-General Corp. doing research work on solid rocket propellants for the Polaris missile system.  I worked with many hazardous materials including explosives.  After about 5 years though, my liver function tests were showing the possibility of reaction to some of the chemicals.  I switched to doing metallurgical research at that time under the direction of Dr. Erwin Rudy, an Austrian physical chemist.  After 5 years with him, he accepted a professorship at the Oregon Graduate Institute and he asked me to move to Oregon with him to work and help get the laboratories set up.  A great deal of my work was doing photographic work in conjunction with publishing his scientific papers.  I had three darkrooms to use and I was the only one using them.  One room was dedicated to processing of films, both X-ray and photomicrograph films.  I was able to do some work in conventional photography also, but that was a small part of the job.  Another darkroom was for printing the pictures and it was well equipped with commercial grade equipment.  I have a contact printer here at the house that came from a similar lab that Dr. Rudy set up and that printer cost $1200 in 1968.  In the third darkroom, I had a process camera, a worktable for sample preparation, and two X-ray machines for doing X-ray diffraction photography on metal specimens.  I left that job in 1972 to start my own full-time business doing service work in heating and air conditioning.  How's that for a switch?  LOL